Don Muddiman Flying Machine
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
Hi Guys,
Hi Kevin,
I removed the Laser Works short kits from my web page because I am going to ask Lazer Works to handle the selling the kits. It was to much hassle for me with very little return. I will be contacting Eddie at Lazer Works this coming week to see if he will agree to this as he had been selling them in the past. I'll keep you updated on the status.
Best regards,
Don
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Hi Kevin,
I removed the Laser Works short kits from my web page because I am going to ask Lazer Works to handle the selling the kits. It was to much hassle for me with very little return. I will be contacting Eddie at Lazer Works this coming week to see if he will agree to this as he had been selling them in the past. I'll keep you updated on the status.
Best regards,
Don
www.eagle-i.us/fm
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Thanks for the quick reply, Don! We'll check with them in the near future! Your design sure struck a nerve within the R/C community! hope to see you soon!
Kevin
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Don! Long time! This is Mark McCorkle. We are still waiting on them kits!hahaha. How ya been? Istill actually one of the kits sitting in the closet unbuilt.... Ineed that ARFor someone to build it. haha. Take it easy!Glad to see you still around on these things!
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anyone have the best setup for their flying machine? I am looking for elevator control throw high rate and low rate plus expo settings AND aileron control throw high rate/low rate with expo settings
THX
RICH
anyone have the best setup for their flying machine? I am looking for elevator control throw high rate and low rate plus expo settings AND aileron control throw high rate/low rate with expo settings
THX
RICH
I can get my plane down and let you know, I would have to measure as well as look in radio...I will post later....
here is my Flying machine....we should get together and have a flying machine day at Markham....get every one we could find who has one to come that Saturday..bet we could get 5 or 6 guys....I have seen 3 or 4 at least.......
here is a crapy picture my mine.....
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Rich,
If I ever see you at the field I wil tell you a funny story about my Patriot...
I am all about that GP Patriot AND that F20.....in my color (RED) as well
PM me if you want to exchange phone numbers.....
-Peace out
If I ever see you at the field I wil tell you a funny story about my Patriot...
I am all about that GP Patriot AND that F20.....in my color (RED) as well
PM me if you want to exchange phone numbers.....
-Peace out
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Rich, you see my scrath build model in the post above?
That was hand built from a local guy I know, for a very resonable fee.....I provided parts and plans and 2 weeks to the day later I maidened the plane....
His name is Joel and he is the best, latley building 40% war birds.....
I can get you in touch and you can pay him.....which in my opinion was 100 times better than a short kit, since Joel did the covering....that is another thing, he is an expert at covering, the plane is the best of all my planes.....because I gave him the best material (Ultra Coat or Monocoat, I forget, what he likes best to work with) and he did a great job...
I have plans for a basic trainer, like an alpha 40 and that was going to be my first shot this year at scratch building....then sell that to recoup cost and do it again.....till I am the master which will take years.....
That was hand built from a local guy I know, for a very resonable fee.....I provided parts and plans and 2 weeks to the day later I maidened the plane....
His name is Joel and he is the best, latley building 40% war birds.....
I can get you in touch and you can pay him.....which in my opinion was 100 times better than a short kit, since Joel did the covering....that is another thing, he is an expert at covering, the plane is the best of all my planes.....because I gave him the best material (Ultra Coat or Monocoat, I forget, what he likes best to work with) and he did a great job...
I have plans for a basic trainer, like an alpha 40 and that was going to be my first shot this year at scratch building....then sell that to recoup cost and do it again.....till I am the master which will take years.....
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anyone have the best setup for their flying machine? I am looking for elevator control throw high rate and low rate plus expo settings AND aileron control throw high rate/low rate with expo settings
THX
RICH
anyone have the best setup for their flying machine? I am looking for elevator control throw high rate and low rate plus expo settings AND aileron control throw high rate/low rate with expo settings
THX
RICH
Low Rates:
Rudder-1/2" 25% Expo
Elevator-1/2" 35% Expo
Aileron-3/8" 35% Expo
High Rates:
Rudder-7/8" 50% Expo
Elevator-7/8" 70% Expo
Aileron-3/4" 70% Expo
mine is a little more than the recommended 3/8" low rates for elevator and a little less on rudder....I could only get 7/8 out of the rudder, and did not need more for knife edge....
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you bet....
Now let's see if we can find some of those other Flying Machine fans out there!
Talk to you soon......and hope for good weather Friday
Now let's see if we can find some of those other Flying Machine fans out there!
Talk to you soon......and hope for good weather Friday
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Hey all,
I am posting this in an effort to get a local flying group together.......I just hooked up with flyingmachine (A.k.a - Rich) and we are going to try to get locals with a Flying Machine to come out and fly with us.
We are going to start at Markham Park....in Sunrise Fl.....so if you are able, and have a Flying Machine model please PM me and we will get hooked up.
If we can get 4 or 5 of us, my Wife will take pictures for all to share as well......would be very cool
I am posting this in an effort to get a local flying group together.......I just hooked up with flyingmachine (A.k.a - Rich) and we are going to try to get locals with a Flying Machine to come out and fly with us.
We are going to start at Markham Park....in Sunrise Fl.....so if you are able, and have a Flying Machine model please PM me and we will get hooked up.
If we can get 4 or 5 of us, my Wife will take pictures for all to share as well......would be very cool
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here is my scratch built flying machine its got a m v v s 40 in it and all hitech servos! it's a wood wing and i went with servos in each wing tip as you can see! i plan on flying it next weekend for the first flight im waiting on my wheelpants and spinner to get here
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Nitro-Tom,
Count me in. I also fly @ Markham.
My Flying Machine (See post #98) crashed like 6 months ago but I am in the process of building a replacement. What a nice plane to play with.
Count me in. I also fly @ Markham.
My Flying Machine (See post #98) crashed like 6 months ago but I am in the process of building a replacement. What a nice plane to play with.
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Nitro-Tom,
Count me in. I also fly @ Markham.
My Flying Machine (See post #98) crashed like 6 months ago but I am in the process of building a replacement. What a nice plane to play with.
Nitro-Tom,
Count me in. I also fly @ Markham.
My Flying Machine (See post #98) crashed like 6 months ago but I am in the process of building a replacement. What a nice plane to play with.
Think you are going to rebuild the FM?
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RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
Here is how I setup my Flying Machine., note how I find my elevator setting.
The FLYING MACHINE is extremely responsive. Initially set up the following control surface movements for test flight:
Elevator : 3/8" up and down Aileron : 3/8" up and down Rudder : 3/4" right and left
Center of Gravity is 3" aft of the leading edge.
After the first flight or two I recommended and use the following procedure for setting up the FLYING MACHINE and all the models that you fly.
Maximum Flight Control Performance.
Setting up the elevator throws:
Prior to flight make sure the rudder is trimmed at center. During flight trim the aircraft for level flight at wide open throttle into the wind. Pull full up elevator and watch the aircraft carefully, it should track true through a complete loop. If the aircraft starts to waiver or snaps in the loop, you have too much up elevator deflection. Decrease the up elevator throw slightly and repeat the above steps until the aircraft can complete this successfully. Apply the reverse of this procedure if during the first test loop the aircraft completes it. You want to maximize the elevator throw for the aircraft. Use the same procedure for setting up the down elevator throw.
Using this procedure for setting the elevator provides for a wide speed envelope allowing you to apply full elevator in a tight situation (If you know what I mean!) knowing the aircraft will not snap. I have seen many aircraft crash because of not properly setting up the elevator throws.
Set the ailerons surface movements to suit your individual preference. Start out with “soft” controls and then increase the throw until you can't stand it. I never use maximum aileron control, You just can't keep up with the rolls.
The rudder, well all I can say is hang on and be careful on takeoff !!. I set the FLYING MACHINE to MAX rudder. A setting of 45 to 50 degree deflection is required to provide those "ohho" and "ahhs".
Knife edge maneuvers require a small amount of rudder throw.
Don
The FLYING MACHINE is extremely responsive. Initially set up the following control surface movements for test flight:
Elevator : 3/8" up and down Aileron : 3/8" up and down Rudder : 3/4" right and left
Center of Gravity is 3" aft of the leading edge.
After the first flight or two I recommended and use the following procedure for setting up the FLYING MACHINE and all the models that you fly.
Maximum Flight Control Performance.
Setting up the elevator throws:
Prior to flight make sure the rudder is trimmed at center. During flight trim the aircraft for level flight at wide open throttle into the wind. Pull full up elevator and watch the aircraft carefully, it should track true through a complete loop. If the aircraft starts to waiver or snaps in the loop, you have too much up elevator deflection. Decrease the up elevator throw slightly and repeat the above steps until the aircraft can complete this successfully. Apply the reverse of this procedure if during the first test loop the aircraft completes it. You want to maximize the elevator throw for the aircraft. Use the same procedure for setting up the down elevator throw.
Using this procedure for setting the elevator provides for a wide speed envelope allowing you to apply full elevator in a tight situation (If you know what I mean!) knowing the aircraft will not snap. I have seen many aircraft crash because of not properly setting up the elevator throws.
Set the ailerons surface movements to suit your individual preference. Start out with “soft” controls and then increase the throw until you can't stand it. I never use maximum aileron control, You just can't keep up with the rolls.
The rudder, well all I can say is hang on and be careful on takeoff !!. I set the FLYING MACHINE to MAX rudder. A setting of 45 to 50 degree deflection is required to provide those "ohho" and "ahhs".
Knife edge maneuvers require a small amount of rudder throw.
Don
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Of course!
I've had Flying Machines since the early 90's. Can't get it to fly it like Don M., not even close, but have as much fun or even more.
I've had Flying Machines since the early 90's. Can't get it to fly it like Don M., not even close, but have as much fun or even more.