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01-13-2018, 01:24 PM
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Zenoah g38
Should i OR Sent i..go for electronic ignition. On my Zenoah G38 Robbin the lbs will help hold the noes down on the 1/4 citabria yes or no ?and do i have to offset the eng. this is my first big plane
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01-13-2018, 02:44 PM
#5504
The Zenoah magneto ignition system such as the one on your G38 is an extremely reliable and user friendly system however there are advantages and disadvantages to both types of ignition systems. First off the mag ignition is completely self serving and does not require additional battery power to run the engine but is quite heavy, however this can be advantageous in warbirds that need up front weight for balancing and short coupled models like Cubs. Electronic ignitions on the other hand weigh mere ounces but require onboard battery power for starting and running but offer extremely easy starting as opposed to a mag ignition. IMHO you really can't go too far wrong with either system so it's really what suits the particular model and you the end user best.
Gas engines will run the very same when mounted in any position, the choice is yours.
Gas engines will run the very same when mounted in any position, the choice is yours.
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01-16-2018, 05:39 AM
#5505
Well it is Snow, Snow, Snow and Snowing in East Texas. A rare event. Snow is sticking to the ground and coming down at a good rate. I got all my make ready chores done yesterday, except move my generator to the house in case of a power failure. I have my thermal overalls on and it is a good time to warm the shop and work on my KAOS. Next few days may be the coldest of the year. When is Summer coming???
01-16-2018, 06:09 AM
#5507
Have had nearly 3 days of snow here, but because it is so cold, the snow is very light, so not as much accumulation. Still enough to foul the roads. Gotta admit, the F150 4 Auto sure is a nice feature in this kind of weather, 4WD when needed, 2WD when not, and no input from me other than turning a knob when I start the truck.
01-16-2018, 09:02 AM
#5509
Back To Modeling. Zenoah are very reliable and they seem to run forever. I have several 38s & 26s some more than 10 years old and still running great.. The 38 with a spring starter is the way to go, It makes starting as snap. They are heavier than the new china engines but if you need weight for the nose, I think it is the best way to go.
Rich
Rich
01-16-2018, 09:44 AM
#5511
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I had trouble getting out of bed this morning. I was warm confortable and happy, because I took care of most things that needed doing yesterday when the temperatre was 60+ degrees, SO, for the next 48 hours I will not open my door cause I will not be going anywhere. only a emergency gets me outta here.
ETpilot , my son is in your area and he was telling me of the snow as I was reading your text, I got some sleet but no snow and that's too much. I just put my swet pants on and they sure feel good, even stopped my nose from running.
The only regret I have at the moment is my shop is on the second floor and I have to go outside to enter it so I won't be busting any balsa for a while.
ETpilot , my son is in your area and he was telling me of the snow as I was reading your text, I got some sleet but no snow and that's too much. I just put my swet pants on and they sure feel good, even stopped my nose from running.
The only regret I have at the moment is my shop is on the second floor and I have to go outside to enter it so I won't be busting any balsa for a while.
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01-16-2018, 09:59 AM
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Back To Modeling. Zenoah are very reliable and they seem to run forever. I have several 38s & 26s some more than 10 years old and still running great.. The 38 with a spring starter is the way to go, It makes starting as snap. They are heavier than the new china engines but if you need weight for the nose, I think it is the best way to go.
Rich
Rich
I have several 1/4 scale semi kits and plans but will let them go because I realize I will not have the opportunity to build them and it's bugging me to let them go, so if any one is looking for plans etc. check with me!
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01-16-2018, 10:48 AM
#5515
Many of the kits and plans where designed for the older engines. I noticed folks complaining of the need for tail weight with the new engines on the market, especially the warbirds.
I have several 1/4 scale semi kits and plans but will let them go because I realize I will not have the opportunity to build them and it's bugging me to let them go, so if any one is looking for plans etc. check with me!
I have several 1/4 scale semi kits and plans but will let them go because I realize I will not have the opportunity to build them and it's bugging me to let them go, so if any one is looking for plans etc. check with me!
01-16-2018, 10:17 PM
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My Bull-Nosed Junior 60!
I've built the battery box, and added the nose blocks and motor mounting plate. Further sanding will be required on the nose section and I still need to build the undercarriage and fit an undercarriage plate, but I'm getting there. The propeller is an 11x4 Airflow wooden propeller and is fitted just for show. I have an analogue ammeter and I intend to solder XT 60 terminals to it to check current consumption.
I have also tidied the bench a bit! Note the club trainers and sports models in the background.
I've built the battery box, and added the nose blocks and motor mounting plate. Further sanding will be required on the nose section and I still need to build the undercarriage and fit an undercarriage plate, but I'm getting there. The propeller is an 11x4 Airflow wooden propeller and is fitted just for show. I have an analogue ammeter and I intend to solder XT 60 terminals to it to check current consumption.
I have also tidied the bench a bit! Note the club trainers and sports models in the background.
01-18-2018, 08:17 AM
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It appears the weather will be more moderate for the next week or so, and I intend to take advantage of it, There is a ton of work that needs doing around here and I am definitely not in the mood to fiddle with any of it.
Tomorrow and Saturday I will attend the swapmeet in Georgetown TX. maybe that will make me feel a bit better. the cold has gotten me down. broken pipes and all, The gray and cloudy sky isn't helping either.
I think what pushed me over the glumpy edge is a section of my water main is leaking, it has been repaired two times before and it is too cold to deal with at this time so I will have a flood to deal with when I can get to it,
I intend to replace ten to twenty feet of it when I do. and back fill with sandyloam soil, this clay soil expands and contracts too much and adds to my woes.
Let me apoligze now for the moaning and groaning but I gotta let it go or I'll explode!
Tomorrow and Saturday I will attend the swapmeet in Georgetown TX. maybe that will make me feel a bit better. the cold has gotten me down. broken pipes and all, The gray and cloudy sky isn't helping either.
I think what pushed me over the glumpy edge is a section of my water main is leaking, it has been repaired two times before and it is too cold to deal with at this time so I will have a flood to deal with when I can get to it,
I intend to replace ten to twenty feet of it when I do. and back fill with sandyloam soil, this clay soil expands and contracts too much and adds to my woes.
Let me apoligze now for the moaning and groaning but I gotta let it go or I'll explode!
01-18-2018, 08:44 AM
#5519
My brother in northern Oklahoma feels your pain. His water pump died for the second time. He has lines running underground to fill multiple stock tanks so the horses can stay watered but the lines are leaking so bad they keep burning out the pump. His plumber is going to run all new lines 30" deep. I'm glad its his bill not mine.
01-18-2018, 09:08 AM
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I had a 50 year-old leaking copper supply pipe replaced by alkathene when I lived in England with no further problems. Of course it does not get so cold in England as it does in the USA.
01-18-2018, 09:17 AM
#5521
Fingers crossed that I have enough insulation on my water line to the barn that I had repaired in late October. Since the backfill was partially frozen, and would have a lot of gaps, I had the manure from the stalls brought over and dumped on top of the trench. So far, so good, and it has been very cold here with negative temps 3 weeks going. Horses are happy that they have fresh water again.
01-18-2018, 09:57 AM
#5523
Donny I feel your pain. Leaking pipes is bad enough in the Summer. Nasty with this cold weather. I had my ice maker line freeze. It has a short run in the attic. I kept going up there checking for leaks as the Sun warmed things up. Thankfully no leaks. This morning I kept running the ice maker water. Not as cold as yesterday but close to it. Yesterday I decided not to work in the shop. So I moved my wing jig and KAOS wing to the house. Just about have one side almost ready to come off the jig.
Looking forward to the warmer weather we will have this coming week.
Looking forward to the warmer weather we will have this coming week.
01-18-2018, 09:35 PM
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Soldering has never been my strong point, perhaps that's why I've never really taken to electric power but over the last few days I've had to alter the terminals on the ammeter to take XT60 connectors and to put XT 60s on a couple of batteries I had skulling about. I had always been advised not to twist the bare ends of exposed wires together because oil from your finger tips could contaminate the wires and make soldering difficult. I hit on an answer to this. Use a piece of spare insulation, wrap that round the exposed end, then twist the wires together. Having had to solder up a total of four connectors, two on LiPos and two on the ammeter, my soldering skills have come on apace!
I spent a merry half hour yesterday testing the current consumption of the motor while using different propellers. With an i/c wooden 11x4 it drew 25 amps, with an electric 11x5.5 it drew about 28 amps and with a 12x6 it drew over 35 amps at full power. I even fitted a 10x6 electric three blader to it for a laugh, that drew 35 amps too! The photo shows the J60 carcass clamped to my Workmate and the motor throttled back a bit.
Unfortunately my hithertoo very reliable charger, a Vislero A6, now refuses to recognise a LiPo!
I spent a merry half hour yesterday testing the current consumption of the motor while using different propellers. With an i/c wooden 11x4 it drew 25 amps, with an electric 11x5.5 it drew about 28 amps and with a 12x6 it drew over 35 amps at full power. I even fitted a 10x6 electric three blader to it for a laugh, that drew 35 amps too! The photo shows the J60 carcass clamped to my Workmate and the motor throttled back a bit.
Unfortunately my hithertoo very reliable charger, a Vislero A6, now refuses to recognise a LiPo!
01-21-2018, 01:35 PM
#5525
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It becomes time for every man to admit he just isn't what he used to be!...............my time has come and went, the water main break was being worked on by my handyman, while I attended a swapmeet which I will speak to shortly,
I assisted my handym with finding and ucovering the pipe but the elusive leak tokk some serious digging. please understand, this soil is black clay that I swear contains CA, it sticks to everything and when stepped on is like walking on grease, being wet as it was increased it's weight. but I did get the pipe cut and attempted to assemble it and for the like of me could not get it aligned enough to go together, so I cut a longer piece and started over but I was so tired from laying in the cold mud I couldn't do a thing I was so tired my whole body was shaking. so I called a younger friend and he got the job done for me. well you would think things would settle down but noooooooooooooooo! the mower I used to pull the tool cart battery went flat and luckely I had it charging from my motor home generator, when it finally got running it move about 100 feet and would not move another inch, mind you I am at least a 1000 feet from the house, so my daughter had to tow me and the mower home. (I have deleted much of what really happened because it would take to long to tell) bottom line is I am so sore.................
Now the swap meet! we were blessed by the state comptollers office because someone said we were not paying sales taxes, a lot of people had to fill out sales tax permits. they were there all day friday, It put a damper on the event
I am going back to bed.
I assisted my handym with finding and ucovering the pipe but the elusive leak tokk some serious digging. please understand, this soil is black clay that I swear contains CA, it sticks to everything and when stepped on is like walking on grease, being wet as it was increased it's weight. but I did get the pipe cut and attempted to assemble it and for the like of me could not get it aligned enough to go together, so I cut a longer piece and started over but I was so tired from laying in the cold mud I couldn't do a thing I was so tired my whole body was shaking. so I called a younger friend and he got the job done for me. well you would think things would settle down but noooooooooooooooo! the mower I used to pull the tool cart battery went flat and luckely I had it charging from my motor home generator, when it finally got running it move about 100 feet and would not move another inch, mind you I am at least a 1000 feet from the house, so my daughter had to tow me and the mower home. (I have deleted much of what really happened because it would take to long to tell) bottom line is I am so sore.................
Now the swap meet! we were blessed by the state comptollers office because someone said we were not paying sales taxes, a lot of people had to fill out sales tax permits. they were there all day friday, It put a damper on the event
I am going back to bed.