D Bronk

Can a, AME Cylinder be directly screwed ,to a BigMig Case,useing a BMig crank/rod/piston,essentially making, a AME ,out of the Mig??

Man, do we got snow falling ..Ground ,and trees are covered, in that White SH*T..[&o]

AndyW

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Most of the Norvel .06 and Wasp .06 parts can be interchanged. The exception is that the carbs have different methods of attachment. Also, if you order a Wasp crank for your Norvel, you will need a spinner nut for it as later Wasps have a threaded stud instead of being internally threaded for a screw. Early Norvels as well as the Wasp use a tapered collet to support the prop drive washer.

On the carbs, the barrels are different diameters.

Yes, you CAN make an AME out of a Big Mig by installing an AME cylinder and piston. But be aware though, that the .049 and .06 cylinders are not interchangeable. You can swap .049 and .06 cranks as they'll fit but the .06 has more throw. If you install one into the other, you'll change the timing AND the compression ratio. Finally, .049 and .06 rods are a different length.

D Bronk

"Yes, you CAN make an AME out of a Big Mig by installing an AME cylinder and piston. But be aware though, that the .049 and .06 cylinders are not interchangeable. You can swap .049 and .06 cranks as they'll fit but the .06 has more throw. If you install one into the other, you'll change the timing AND the compression ratio. Finally, .049 and .06 rods are a different length. "

Hi Andy ,Have you ever Tried making a Stroker between those 2 size of engines.I suppose there`s not much point, to do that ,unless, you had 2 buggered engines, that you wanted to make 1 working engine out of..

AndyW

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Dave,

Yes, I actually did, now that you mention it. Didn't really see any gain. However, what DID work was to stuff the crank from an MP Jets .06 into a Norvel .06. The Jets crank has a slightly longer throw but I don't think that that is what did the good deed. I'm speculating that the massive intake port is what really worked. Reason is, that I had installed the crank out of a Fox .049 into a Norvel and saw no gain, in fact a loss and it has even more throw than the Jets crank. But the port was average for an .049.

Pictured is the Fox .049 on the right and the hybrid on the left. The crank throw was so much more that the case had to be hogged out for clearance,, so much so that you could see daylight at the grove. So I reinforced that area with J B Weld. More to seal than reinforce probably.

Also pictured are some cranks from other engines.

On the far left, the first two are a stock and modified MP Jets crank. The next two are from a CS .049 high performance, ball bearing .049. Can you say heavy duty? Looking rather meek on the far right is a stock, Norvel crank. But no matter, they're tough. I've been beating them to death on diesel with monster props like 8 X 4s and they just smirk and say "'smatter homey, that all you got"?

The extra throw on the Fox/Norvel hybrid may show benefit as a diesel though,,, got to try that one day.

digital_trucker

I need a spinner for a pre-revlite BigMig .061. I seem to have lost mine. Anyone have an extra or maybe a lathe can make me one?

thtoyman

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What are you guys use for rx's and fuel?

rainedave

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I think the 1/2A rx of choice these days is the Berg Microstamp. Very affordable and literally full range, and made in the USA:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXLBY8&P=ML

I use Sig 1/2A fuel:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXEYT8&P=7

thtoyman

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ok What if you need a 4ch rx?

rainedave

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The Berg is 4ch. You use a Y connector for the battery and fourth servo.

thtoyman

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That work good like that?Ok for small nitro?

goldsticker

Assuming I can find one...

Will a Norvel AME 049/061 R/C carb fit on a Norvel AME 049 Control Line engine??

I am assuming that the 049 and 061 carb assemblies are identical... Do they infact use the same assembly part number?

It looks like the part number I should look for is 110159-RC


Thanks
Mike

thtoyman

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Any one try to use a gws rx?

rainedave

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Yes, I am using one in my Randolph Bee-Tween. It's a few dollars cheaper than the Berg, but only has about 1/3 of the range. I bought it before I found out about the Bergs. Personally, I would go with the Berg, and BTW, people have been sharing servo channels with battery packs forever. Berg also make a 7ch for $51 that is full range, too:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXLBY9&P=ML

Andrew

Venturi assemblies and carbs will fully interchange between the .049 and .061 engines -- what you have to pay attention to is the older vs. newer style crankcase. The earlier AAN crankcases used a glued in round body carb; the newer AAO or REVLITE engines have a thru bolt mount with square body carb or venturi.

If your engine has the bolted in venturi, then your part number should work.

Bipe Flyer

I'd feel comfortable with a Berg in any of my planes, including .46 or larger. I only put my GWS receivers in my slow flying electrics. I can almost make a GWS glitch on command. If I fly at the right height and distance and point the RX antenna directly at the plane, all the servos will twitch.

rainedave

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Good point, Bipe. My Bee-Tween has a GWS 400 lecky, flies very slow and stays right out in front of me.

thtoyman

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OK . How about a hitec 555 rx? Looking to use some thing I got laying around.

Bipe Flyer

I use Hitec 555 receivers in most of my 1/2A planes.

D Bronk

Hi-Tec Electron 6.. 6 channels ,can remove the case to lighten further...Full Range ,Capable of being used, in Larger planes too.!!

E.L Vater

Norvel 110138 Freedom XL too large diameter;

I have what appears to be an early AME 061. No muffler tap, muffler wire w/out curved ends and oval glued carb. I purchased a Norvel 110138 glow plug and it is too large of a diameter for my head. What's up with this? Did I get an improperly machined glow plug or are the heads different. I must add the 061 is one great little engine with much lower idle than I expected.

Thanks in advance.

thtoyman

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Reading all the posting. I whne out and got a new breg.I'm just happy I have gound check it. I don't kown if a got a bad one, But it glitch so bad. 10 ft away. I will not start the motor or fly plane with it. I'm going to call HS and see what they say. Any ideals? I'm not new on RC been in for years. Just not in to small things.

mylamo

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toyman I have one that did the same thing until
I changed to a heavier gauge " Y " harness .
Ralph

thtoyman

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Not use a " Y " harness

goldsticker

A follow-up question. I have read that the AP .061 is a knock-off of the Norvel .061's... If that is the case, will the AP .061 carb fit on my Norvel AME 049 control line engine???

Thanks
Mike

Andrew

Goldsticker --

No -- this is one place the engines differ. The base of the AP carb is round; the base of the NORVEL carb is more of an oblong shape.